littlecranky67 7 days ago

> Much like with the speakers, Apple are trying way too hard to be fancy here

It is just a reference that Apple Laptop speakers have been waaay above anything the competition uses - and this is true since multiple generations. Had a MBP from 2014 and multiple friends were astonished about the sound when we watched a movie on the go. Same with the M4 MBP - sounds quality from the speaker is at a level that you probably don't actually need.

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wk_end 7 days ago

I feel like this must be some kind of a language barrier thing - the dev’s name appears to be Spanish, so English may not be their native language. And I think that most native English speakers - as demonstrated by multiple comments asking about it in this thread - would interpret “trying too hard to be fancy” as implying “because you can get similar high-quality results without using such sophisticated techniques”; but it seems like you’re saying (and this makes sense) they meant “because getting such high-quality results is overkill for a consumer laptop”.

Language is fascinating - I can convince myself with enough effort that the latter is just as valid as the former, given the literal meaning of the words, but my linguistic intuition is screaming at me that it’s wrong. How does someone ever learn that? How would a textbook ever explain it?

littlecranky67 7 days ago

Agree with you, I was confused why everybody else interpreted in a different way. Am not spanish but german and not a native speaker, so the language barrier thing might be a good explanation.

avianlyric 7 days ago

> It is just a reference that Apple Laptop speakers have been waaay above anything the competition uses

More like the opposite. The MacBook speakers are absolutely rubbish, just like all laptop speakers (there's only so much you can do when constrained to a laptop body). The reason why MacBooks sound good is entirely god-tier signal processing which manages to extract extraordinary performance out of some decidedly very ordinary speakers.

https://github.com/AsahiLinux/asahi-audio#why-this-is-necess...

littlecranky67 7 days ago

Not sure what you are saying (or just ranting?) - MBP speaker are the opposite as in the rest of non-apple Laptops have way better sounding speakers? That is definetely not my experience at all.

If they are all rubish together, well, they are laptop speakers - and as such you have to treat them. Still there is nothing preventing some set of laptop speakers being objectively better than others.

klausa 7 days ago

They're saying that the physical speakers inside the MacBooks body are not what makes them sound good (and that the physical speakers are on par with other manufacturers) — it's the fancy, custom post-processing that does.

littlecranky67 7 days ago

2Quote from their own link: "In the case of Apple Silicon machines, Apple has taken things one step further by including actually good speakers on most modern Macs"

Sharlin 7 days ago

In my experience MBP 2015 sound is pretty thin and high frequencies are prone to clipping at even a moderate volume – soprano vocal parts suffer from this quite a bit. Of course for most uses that’s not a big problem and I’m sure the sound is still much better than that of many other laptops though. But the M series MBP speakers are a crazy improvement.