sph 16 hours ago

Also, English has the 5 vowels of the Latin script representing some 25 vowels sounds, to the point that consonants can turn into vowels with no rhyme or reason. The best way to learn that English is nonsense is to live in Britain and learn local city and village names. They all have made up pronunciation rules, evolved over the centuries, sure, but they forgot to update the bloody name on the map to match the sounds.

As a descendant of the Romans, I can only shake my head at such barbarism.

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9dev 14 hours ago

Ha! And don’t even get me started with the Scots and their whiskey. Bruichladdich, Pittyvaich, and Tè Bheag? Bunnahabhain Stiuireadair? Auchroisk??

I swear they only do this to mess with people.

tsm 13 hours ago

In these cases it's all Scottish Gaelic, which has a complex but very consistent phonics system. Complaining about it would be like complaining that Russian vodka brands are hard to pronounce because you can't read Cyrillic

amiga386 10 hours ago

"Scots and their whiskey"

    >:-(
Nobody in Scotland makes whiskey

shmeeed 6 hours ago

What a delight, I haven't seen that smiley in a while!

When and why did we all collectively decide not to use those any more? (I know why, but still.)

miroljub 15 hours ago

So true. I always wondered why is Leicester pronounced as "lester" and not as "laichester".

vikingerik 7 hours ago

Because the components are Leice-ster, not Lei-cester. Same for Glouce-ster, Worce-ster etc. A very refined pronunciation might emit both "s" sounds, but colloquially they get smooshed together into one.

darkwater 14 hours ago

Grenich anyone?

sph 14 hours ago

Soderk (Southwark), Marlibon (Marylebone), Reding (Reading), Bister (Bicester), Sozbery (Salisbury), Frum (Frome), Worick (Warwick), Noridge (Norwich), Darby (Derby), and the various Gloster, Lester, Wooster

darkwater 12 hours ago

Yeah but Greenwich is a place known world-wide, and I guess a high percentage of people mispronounce it (I was one of them).

miroljub 11 hours ago

It's known worldwide, but many people never heard an actual Britt pronouncing it.

In my country, it was always pronounced as green-each. Only in this thread I realised it's written Green-wich and pronounced gren-each.

And I'm pretty sure I'll forget it quickly and just keep calling it green-each.

amiga386 10 hours ago

... Hoyk (Hawick), Kircoodbree (Kirkcudbright), Mullguy (Milngavie), Cooriss (Culross), Geeree (Garioch), Eyela (Islay)

However, some Americans even have trouble with Glasgow (Glaz-go, not Glass-gow) and Edinburgh (Ed-in-burra, not Edin-bro)

18172828286177 8 hours ago

Edinburgh is morr commonly pronounced “edinbruh”.

amiga386 7 hours ago

Glasgow and Edinburgh are pronounced "Glesca" and "Embra" by their natives but I wouldn't recommend it to others.

I've heard some Americans pronounce it "Edin-bo-ro" which is entirely off.

18172828286177 8 hours ago

Southwark is “suh-thuk”. Salisbury “sorlsbry”. Norwich “norrich”.

Ekaros 14 hours ago

The perks of coming late. Finnish did job properly with only one or two warts...

inkyoto 13 hours ago

That depends on how one defines «properly». Finnish, with its nearly 20 noun cases and vowel harmony, has made a spellchecker a computationally unsolvable problem.