xenadu02 1 day ago

This is another case of a huge fallacy humans seem endlessly afflicted with: The Root Cause Fallacy.

You are assuming there is but one cause for development and/or loss of resistance.

There may not be much pressure to develop resistance to tetrodotoxin for most species. Simultaneously there might be a higher metabolic cost to retaining it for some species but not for others. It is also possible that resistance with low cost is very rarely lost which is why we carry resistance to toxins we don't often see but population bottlenecks in ancestral lines can cause loss of a trait to propagate - even by accident. And much like Vitamin C loss if it doesn't matter the loss sticks. We should not forget that there are multiple resistance mechanisms as well: an immune system generally primed to fight certain common causes of mortality can, entirely by accident, also be primed to recognize and destroy certain proteins conferring resistance to some toxins and not others.

I have barely scratched the surface above. The random walk of evolution and its constant hoarding tendencies should make everyone skeptical simplistic mechanisms of action as well as "just so" explanations of evolutionary history.

FWIW most things are multi-causal. I previously made the same argument about house prices. People who claim it is caused by foreign money, low interest rates, restrictive zoning, etc all want their pet theory to be The One True Reason. In reality the market is complex and many of the proposed causes are merely contributing factors.

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mekoka 1 day ago

> You are assuming...

I made no assumptions. As I pointed out to another commenter, you might be in too much of a haste to play at being a contrarian. It might be more useful to pay closer attention to what you're objecting to.

Evolutionary game theory demonstrates that evolution is a matter of fitness payoffs. If cost of a trait increases, fitness is reduced. The prevalence of a trait in a fit population is indicative that, at best, the trait increases fitness, at worst, it doesn't hinder it. In both cases, the genes tend to be passed on and the game is allowed to continue. When carrying the trait becomes costly, there's pressure to get rid of it (through the usual evolutionary means).

The above model encompasses all the unnecessary specificity you tried to bring into the matter. If you object to it, address your concerns to the scientists that are leading us all astray.

For now, let's circle right back to the author's original argument. Absence of an actually useful trait to increase fitness (i.e. protecting ones from certain food sources and others from predators) might be indicative of a hefty tax to pay for carrying it.

kylebenzle 1 day ago

As a biologist, reading your comments is deeply distressing :(

zxexz 1 day ago

Isn’t evolutionary game theory a behavioural model from the 1970s? Not that it’s not interesting; I don’t see the relevance here. Maybe it’s just your condescending tone.

(No offense, I hope you don’t realize how you are coming across, or that if you do this comment will trigger some introspection)

mbonnet 21 hours ago

You need to accept that you don't know what you're talking about.

jkman 1 day ago

Jesus man, your hubris is astounding. 'I made no assumptions'? Ridiculous lol

Behave yourself