sib 1 day ago

That's a pretty significant difference, though.

OpenAI (and other services) log and preserve your interactions, in order to either improve their service or to provide features to you (e.g., your chat history, personalized answers, etc., from OpenAI). If a court says "preserve all your user interaction logs," they exist and need to be preserved.

DDG explicitly does not track you or retain any data about your usage. If a court says "preserve all your users interaction logs," there is nothing to be preserved.

It is a very different thing - and a much higher bar - for a court to say "write code to begin logging user interaction data and then preserve those logs."

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webstrand 1 day ago

OpenAI also claims to delete logs after 30 days if you've deleted them. Anything that you've deleted but hasn't been processed by OpenAI yet will now be open to introspection by the court.

ethagnawl 1 day ago

I should have said "web search", as that's really what I meant -- DDG was just a convenient counterexample.