nilamo 1 day ago

I won't speak for others, but I refuse to use a service that doesnt work if I'm not signed in. But when it did work, there didn't appear to be overzealous banning, and all the banning conversation appeared to be coming from sources that deserved to be banned, imo.

So when you say "it's still good" while also mentioning thought police, I take what you're saying with a huge grain of salt, as I never noticed thought police to begin with, so less of something unnoticable sounds very close to "complete anarchy, nazis, and that's how we like it". Like 4chan put on a business suit.

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jeffhuys 1 day ago

If you never noticed the thought police, you were of the kind of people that Twitter wanted there to exclusively be. That's okay, but not a realistic view of the world. However, people with differing ideologies were pushed away. Yes, that includes literal nazis. But that also includes people who don't agree with the status-quo and want to see something different. The old twitter gave the impression of a world where 99% of the people agree with the current state of things, which is just not reality.

X is the only platform where you can see the real state of the world, raw, unedited. That's INCREDIBLY valuable and I'm absolutely baffled by how everyone here seems to celebrate censorship. We fought wars over this.

i80and 1 day ago

Yeah the censorship is overbearing now. I've since deleted my account of a decade but just using the word "cis" got a post of mine immediately auto-moderated.

I think people talking about how new-Twitter is somehow a bastion of free speech or whatever are just telling on themselves about what they think speech is.

jeffhuys 1 day ago

Are you banned? Is your post deleted? No? Then it’s not censorship.

Again, if you don’t match with the vision, don’t use the platform. But you have to accept that the platform exists, is very popular, and allows free speech, and you can’t change that.

drdeca 1 day ago

I don’t think Elon is particularly principled on the topic of free speech, seeing the way he blocked those outgoing links to competitors a while ago.

Regarding the auto moderation of that word, what does happen when a post gets auto moderated? Does it get like, semi-hidden or something?

jeffhuys 1 day ago

They go to the bottom, behind a button you have to press to reveal them.

rstat1 1 day ago

*allows free speech Elon agrees with

which isn't really all that free after all.

nilamo 1 day ago

I recognize the benefits of open communication, while also not wanting to participate in something so gross. I'm absolutely baffled by people claiming censorship free is the only option, and that any moderation at all is bad. A free for all is not what I want, in any platform or space I participate in.

jeffhuys 1 day ago

I think this might be a reaction to the previous moderation which seemed to be extremely biased. The moderation that’s currently in place seems much less so, however some people seem to argue it’s now the same, just the other way around.

In my opinion a free-for-all is what the online world needs. But it’s just that, an opinion. Feel free to not participate. I’m interested in what you do participate in, except for HN, though - is there something better that doesn’t ban me for defending Elon, for instance? To put question marks by global policy? etc etc. That’s at least as popular as X is? We can just talk to huge names there, and call them out on their bullshit, if they spew it. That’s unbeatable.