mritchie712 21 hours ago

my stance is the opposite of all-or-nothing. The note above is one example. How much value you get out of CURSOR specifically is going to vary based on person & problem. The Python dev in my example might immediately get value out of o3 in ChatGPT.

It's not all or nothing. What you get value out of immediately will vary based on circumstance.

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infecto 20 hours ago

You say your stance isn’t all-or-nothing, but your original comment drew a pretty hard line, junior devs who start from scratch and have a high tolerance for bugs get 10x productivity, while experienced devs with high standards and mature setups will likely be slowed down. That framing is exactly the kind of binary thinking that’s making these conversations so unproductive.

ghufran_syed 20 hours ago

I wouldn’t classify this as binary thinking - isnt the comment you are replying just defining boundary conditions? Then those two points don’t define the entire space, but the output there does at least let us infer (but not prove) something about the nature of the “function” between those two points? Where the function f is something like f: experience -> productivity increase?

infecto 20 hours ago

You’re right that it’s possible to read the original comment as just laying out two boundary conditions—but I think we have to acknowledge how narrative framing shapes the takeaway. The way it’s written leads the reader toward a conclusion: “LLMs are great for junior, fast-shipping devs; less so for experienced, meticulous engineers.” Even if that wasn’t the intent, that’s the message most will walk away with.

But they drew boundaries with very specific conditions that lead the reader. It’s a common theme in these AI discussions.

web007 19 hours ago

> LLMs are great for junior, fast-shipping devs; less so for experienced, meticulous engineers

Is that not true? That feels sufficiently nuanced and gives a spectrum of utility, not binary one and zero but "10x" on one side and perhaps 1.1x at the other extrema.

The reality is slightly different - "10x" is SLoC, not necessarily good code - but the direction and scale are about right.

TeMPOraL 14 hours ago

That feels like the opposite of being true. Juniors have, by definition, little experience - the LLM is effectively smarter than them and much better at programming, so they're going to be learning programming skills from LLMs, all while futzing about not sure what they're trying to express.

People with many years or even decades of hands-on programming experience, have the deep understanding and tacit knowledge that allows them to tell LLMs clearly what they want, quickly evaluate generated code, guide the LLM out of any rut or rabbit hole it dug itself into, and generally are able to wield LLMs as DWIM tools - because again, unlike juniors, they actually know what they mean.

mritchie712 19 hours ago

no, those are two examples of many many possible circumstances. I intentionally made it two very specific examples so that was clear. Seems it wasn't so clear.

infecto 19 hours ago

Fair enough but if you have to show up in the comments clarifying that your clearly delineated “IF this THEN that” post wasn’t meant to be read as a hard divide, maybe the examples weren’t doing the work you thought they were. You can’t sketch a two-point graph and then be surprised people assume it’s linear.

Again I think the high level premise is correct as I already said, the delivery falls flat though. Your more junior devs have larger opportunity of extracting value.

bluecheese452 19 hours ago

I and others understood it perfectly well. Maybe the problem wasn’t with the post.

infecto 18 hours ago

And I along with others who upvoted me did not. What’s your point? Seems like you have none and instead just want to point fingers.

bluecheese452 18 hours ago

The guy was nice enough to explain his post that you got confused about. Rather than be thankful you used that as evidence that he was not clear and lectured him on it.

I gently suggested that the problem may have not been with his post but with your understanding. Apparently you missed the point again.

infecto 17 hours ago

If multiple people misread the post, clarity might be the issue, not comprehension. Dismissing that as misunderstanding doesn’t add much. Let’s keep it constructive.