planb 3 days ago

What is wrong with OpenAI? The naming of their models seems like it is intentionally confusing - maybe to distract from lack of progress? Honestly, I have no idea which model to use for simply everyday tasks anymore.

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dabeeeenster 3 days ago

It really is bizarre. If you had asked me 2 days ago I would have said unequivically that these models already existed. Surely given the rate of change a date-based numbering system would be more helpful?

xd1936 3 days ago

Fix coming this summer, hopefully.

https://twitter.com/sama/status/1911906570835022319

i_love_retros 3 days ago

I tend to look at the lmarena leaderboard to see what to use (or the aider polyglot leaderboard for coding)

sho_hn 3 days ago

Seems to me like they're somewhat trying to simplify now.

GPT-N.m -> Non-reasoning

oN -> Reasoning

oN+1-mini -> Reasoning but speedy; cut-down version of an upcoming oN model (unclear if true or marketing)

It would be nice if they actually stick to this pattern.

bogtog 3 days ago

I suspect that "ChatGPT-4o" is the most confusing part. Absolutely baffling to go with that and then later "oN", but surely they will avoid any "No" models moving forward

krackers 3 days ago

But we have both 4o and 4.1 for non-reasoning. And it's still not clear to me which is better (the comparison on their page was from an older version of 4o).

jagger27 3 days ago

Are the oN models built on top of GPT-N.m models? It would be nice to know the lineage there.