at no point did they say anything that even comes close to saying “no bugs in human written code.”

if you’re willing to come down off your defensive AI position, because your response is a common one from people who are bought into the tech, i’ll try explain what they were saying (if not, stop reading now, save yourself some time).

maybe you’ll learn something, who knows :shrug:

> Programming was one of the few remaining places where you had to be precise, where it was harder to fool yourself. Where you had to understand it to program it.

they are talking about the approach, motivations and attitudes involved in “the craft”.

we strive for perfection, knowing we will never reach it. we, as programmers/hackers/engineers must see past our own bullshit/delusions to find our way to the fabled “solution”.

they are lamenting how those attitudes have shifted towards “fuck it, that’ll do, who cares if the code reads good, LLM made it work”.

where in the “vibe coding” feedback loop is there a place for me, a human being, to realise i have completely misunderstood a concept for the last five years and suddenly realise “oh shit, THATS HOW THAT WORKS!? HOW HAVE I NOT REALISED THAT FOR FIVE YEARS.” ?

where in “just ask chatgpt for a summary about a topic” is my journey where i learn about a documentation rendering library that i never even knew existed until i actually started reading the docs site for a library?

maybe we were thinking about transferring our docs off confluence onto a public site to document our API? asking chatGpt removes that opportunity for accidental learning and growth.

in essence, they’re lamenting the sacrifice people seem to be willing to make for convenience, at the price of continually growing and learning as a human being.

at least that’s my take on it. probably wrong — but if i am at least i get to learn something new and grow as a person and see past my own bullshit and delusions!