hintymad 5 days ago

I used to discuss my different views and presented data or facts that I gathered The facts, of course, could be wrong, as I have limited faulty to verify everything. Yet, instead of pointing out what I said was wrong, I got angry posts attacking my motives and my posts were flagged. So, now I know the game, and for such politically charged posts, I know what I can do easily: flag it away.

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throwworhtthrow 5 days ago

It's true that HN has shown itself _mostly_ incapable of having a useful discussion on topics that involve the current US president. (But sometimes a useful thread of conversation emerges!) Users that are frustrated by a flagged topic will retaliate by flagging comments they disagree with. And vice versa.

I think retaliating like this just makes HN worse. If you stop flagging perfectly good stories, HN will be a marginally nicer place for discussion. I'll say the same to anyone here who admits to blanket flagging of comments.

Please keep trying to discuss your views. Sometimes they'll get smacked down unfairly, but other times they'll stick around. The more you try, the more they'll stick, and hopefully it can shift the tone of discussion here.

outer_web 5 days ago

You flag posts with politics because you don't like having been flagged?

hintymad 5 days ago

The Iron Rule, right? The benefit of the Iron Rule is that those who break rules face consequences, preventing them from escalating their behavior. So you cancel me, I cancel you, only harder. You play law fare, I do the same to you, only more legally but in a harsher way. Hada yada yada. It’s the only way to keep the society civil, eventually.

cosmicgadget 5 days ago

You post something and based on its content you assume someone from an ideological group flagged it. And for that reason you flag and opinion of someone you assume is from that group?

What a way to live.

hintymad 5 days ago

Actually, good point. Thanks for pointing that out.

blargey 5 days ago

I can't fathom the thought process that claims the goal is "preventing escalation" and immediately decides the only method is escalation.

ethbr1 4 days ago

If it was good enough for the Cold War... https://www.rand.org/pubs/reports/R2964.html

SpicyLemonZest 5 days ago

It seems to me like people were mostly receptive to your facts and data. You got angry posts attacking your motives when you wrote angry posts such as this:

> Yeah, we elected Trump to fuck up the ball of worms that your left cherished so much, and Trump is following through.

Perhaps you ought to look in the mirror.

hintymad 5 days ago

Interestingly, that one was not flagged. The ones that gave simple data points were. That said, was that comment angry? I was happy because I finally saw a president deliver his campaign promises. Or maybe I was angry but angry as a liberal: we are supposed to keep government in check, yet when doge found out so much potential issues of the government and ngos, the first reaction of the left was to attack the motives of doge and to protect the institution? Where was the liberalism?

ethbr1 5 days ago

110%, people can be braindead assholes in their replies, and fail to substantially engage with comments.

Or just drive-by up/down according to if they agree with you or not.

Sorry that was your experience, and hopefully we can all be less... that... together.