GuinansEyebrows 5 days ago

The tariffs were announced with no plan to bolster on-shore manufacturing.

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fundad 5 days ago

Yes, that's because they are a consumption tax intended to replace income tax. the talk of US manufacturing is not completely on-the-level.

burningChrome 5 days ago

The main purpose of tariffs is to change behavior for both the consumer and the manufacturers.

Auto manufacturers have been doing this for decades when the US started imposing tariffs on Japanese manufacturers back in the 1970's. To get around the tariffs and still get access to the US markets, they would simply assemble the parts of the cars here and bypass the rules of the tariffs. Many companies then started doing the same.

This effectively changed the behavior of the companies to avoid the tariffs. The end result was more manufacturing and assembly plants here - even though most of the big production tasks of the vehicles were still done overseas.

Also, there's already been several announcements of companies moving their manufacturing to the US in order to avoid getting hit with tariffs:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nvidia-commits-500-billion-to...

Nvidia (NVDA) on Monday said it will produce up to $500 billion of AI infrastructure in the US within the next four years as the tech industry looks to bolster its domestic manufacturing footprint in the face of Trump's approach to trade policy and desire to onshore more US heavy industry.

Also, Ford made some moves to avoid both US and European tariffs:

Less than a week after the White House announced its comprehensive set of tariffs, the Dearborn automaker exclusively revealed to Ford Authority its comprehensive plan to relocate all of its assembly plants to Hawaii. The move will be made possible by state of the art 3D printing technology and has the support of the United Auto Workers.

In any event, Ford envisions Hawaii as an export hub for markets outside North America and a key pillar of the company’s domestic production capabilities. Ford will utilize an obscure maritime law from World War II as a way to get completely around European and Asian tariffs, as the original intent of the legislation enabled private companies to avoid punitive trade measures to get badly needed supplies to the Allies at the height of the conflict.

mbreese 5 days ago

You’re missing a link for the Ford news. Dare I ask when you read about Ford moving production to Hawaii? Was it in early April by chance?

https://fordauthority.com/2025/04/ford-will-avoid-trump-tari...

> We’ll have more on this never, because this was our final April Fools’ article for 2025. We hope you enjoyed all of them!

burningChrome 5 days ago

Ooooof. They got me. Ironically, this is the first article in many different search results with several other articles about how Ford will deal with the tariffs. With another article from Ford Authority on the same topic:

https://fordauthority.com/2025/03/ford-taking-broad-steps-to...

In addition to scrutinizing its supply chain, Ford is also in the process of stocking up on parts that comply with the current U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement, and it’s also taking a second look at its operations in those countries, according to Automotive News. Ford is “strategically stockpiling components where it is cost-effective and parts that are not pending engineering changes,” supply chain chief Liz Door told suppliers in a recent memo.

This is what got me. They had this article talking about looking at its operations in those countries and then the April Fools article which essentially described them doing just that.

Although I already knew Ford does most of its manufacturing in the US, I should've known better.

Thanks for the heads up regardless.

realo 5 days ago

The Donald tariffs certainly changed my behavior as a Canadian consumer.

For example, i stopped buying US wine, US orange juice and I keep an eye open for any US made thing I could remove from my environment.

fundad 5 days ago

Instead of the US government spending away on overcapacity so Canadians can have cheap products, that money should go to public housing and healthcare subsidies. I think this is better for the US long term because agriculture is heavily subsidized and competes with housing and other industries for land and labor.

sanktanglia 5 days ago

Oh yeah the money from the tariffs are definitely going to go to help average Americans. Oh wait be did this last time and 90% of the tariffs went to propping up all the industries that went to shit due to reciprocal tariffs (soy beans and others) and we never recovered. So many countries moved away from us and never came back. That's exactly what's going to happen this time, alienating is from our allies, almost like it's the point to cause chaos and alienation but wait why would trump do that hes always been on the up and up before

fundad 5 days ago

I don't expect an insurrectionist to do good for Americans.

I also think government spending on overcapacity so we can export food is a waste of money and bad for the economy and the environment. How many millions of acres of soy bean crops do we actually need?

If the market for exported soy suffers because of who people voted for, let's reduce the subsidies by n%, farmers will plant less won't be able to keep all their land and we can return that land to Native Americans. This is disruption we need (but won't get because murica).

maxwell 5 days ago

Nice, you found Canadian wine and orange juice?

ceejayoz 5 days ago

The former is very much a thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_wine

maxwell 5 days ago

Impressive scale actually, didn't realize there were over 500 Canadian wineries.

jlarocco 5 days ago

But he doesn't need Canadian, only not from the USA.

fundad 5 days ago

They can substitute US products with those from plenty of nations plowing money into overcapacity and dumping their exports on the international market.