fifilura 4 days ago

Impossible since that would mean extreme left wing radical socialism. And communism.

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neogodless 4 days ago

Unless there could be a less black and white option in the middle?

Like a bit more taxes on the wealthiest, a bit more social safety nets for the neediest?

fifilura 4 days ago

Yeah obviously.

I am not from USA, but maybe you'll need to figure this out on state level? Country level seems rather blocked at the moment.

arrosenberg 4 days ago

Can't do it, individual states can't print money and freedom of movement means the free rider problem will pop up quickly.

fifilura 4 days ago

> can't print money

But can they raise taxes?

> freedom of movement

EU also has freedom of movement, but vastly different social security systems.

Language is of course an extra barrier, but how much people will move is overrated. And maybe you could restrict supposed benefits to people who have lived there in a few years.

Obviously IANAL, but i am thinking - seems like you generally hate your government no matter who it is, so maybe states should be a bit more independent.

arrosenberg 4 days ago

> But can they raise taxes?

Sure, but the math doesn't work out. Vermont and California have both tried in various forms.

> EU also has freedom of movement, blah blah blah

They also coordinated the laws between the member countries. That's exactly what the federal government would need to do in this case, very good! The EU system doesn't work particularly well either, because it's loosely confederated. The US government has far more ability to coordinate the States.

insane_dreamer 4 days ago

Sarcasm detector has to be pretty high to catch this one ;)

But you've touched on the problem: any attempt to reform is immediately cast as "communism" (also without really understanding communism and equating it with soviet authoritarianism, but that's another topic).

fifilura 4 days ago

Yeah, cultural difference.

Coming from Europe I think the sarcasm was pretty obvious. More like "duh".

bilbo0s 4 days ago

Sigh.

Unfortunately, your implications are spot on.

We, the people, are our own worst enemies.

0cf8612b2e1e 4 days ago

You have to attribute some blame to the elite who run an ongoing propaganda campaign for voters to work against their own interests.

apercu 4 days ago

Really? Is that your honest take? It's either late stage unfettered capitalism, regulatory capture and oligarchy OR communism?

Edit: I forgot theocracy.

fifilura 4 days ago

Yeah, sarcasm does not work on internet, I know. I tried to paraphrase the ruler in chief.

apercu 4 days ago

Ah, thank you. I was so terribly disappointed to see that take on here.

glial 4 days ago

I think the comment was tongue-in-cheek.