thelastgallon 6 days ago

And its going to be fine. Amish mostly make everything they need, have no debt, no trade deficits, have lots of kids and are thriving. I'm not saying this to be snarky, all Americans can be as happy as billionaines: https://www.businessinsider.com/if-you-want-to-be-happier-sh...

"Is it possible to step off the hedonic treadmill? The best approach involves silencing our desires, restraining the insatiable appetite of our dopamine neurons. This is what the Amish have done. They have learned to live without modern consumerism. They don't use cars, reject the Internet, avoid the mall, and prefer a quite permanence to heady growth. The end result is a happiness boom. The Amish turn out to be as satisfied with their lives as members of the Forbes 400. Furthermore, their rates of depression are more than ten fold lower than the rest of the American population. The Amish are content because they have learned to ignore their dopaminergic pleas for more." https://scienceblogs.com/cortex/2007/03/16/happiness-wealth-...

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echoangle 6 days ago

What would happen if everyone lived like the Amish though? I’m assuming they are still profiting from modern science they wouldn’t be able to come up with, right? Or are they refusing MRI scans and Chemotherapy too?

adrianN 6 days ago

A lot of people would starve without industrialized agriculture.

xeromal 6 days ago

But you could build the hell out of a barn

potato3732842 6 days ago

I think the point wasn't that that specific example scales to the whole nation but more that if that specific example works as well as it does at the scale that it does than surely some middle ground between "import basically every consumer good" and "the amish" would scale to the entire nation with acceptable tradeoffs.

mschuster91 6 days ago

> Furthermore, their rates of depression are more than ten fold lower than the rest of the American population.

One wonders if this is simply due to under-diagnosis.

gblargg 6 days ago

My theory is that all our modern junk doesn't necessarily cause depression, but it allows us to take on more chronic depression and other mental problems (distraction, dopamine hits, etc.) Like the way added safety features to cars just caused drivers to drive worse to compensate.

gaiagraphia 5 days ago

>under diagnosis

Telling the Amish they're depressed sounds like a wonderful business oppportunity! Think of all the follow up products and services!

mrheosuper 6 days ago

"ignorance is bliss"