jopsen 6 days ago

In Denmark imports have to pay vat (25%), regardless of tariffs (goods made in Denmark also charge vat).

But the processing fee for customs is usually 20-40 USD. Which can exceed the cost of the package in the first place.

So when possible I always shop within the EU, or maybe the US.

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rfmc 6 days ago

That’s all true, but you are leaving out an important piece of information that, at least for AliExpress, the VAT is already included in the price and there’s no additional customs processing fee.

Freak_NL 6 days ago

Yeah, you have to try real hard to get a customs processing fee on a package from AliExpress. Customs literally can't keep up with the fire-hose of packages coming in from China, so the current deal is that they, AliExpress, charge and pay VAT and the packages just come through unscathed.

Order something from the US into Europe? Expect to pay customs most of the time. From Great Britain post-Brexit? Ditto. China? Rarely.

kalleboo 6 days ago

Any business outside the EU can register for the EU One Stop Shop scheme and charge the VAT directly and avoid fees. Many small time US sellers probably just don’t want to bother, but big platforms like AliExpress centralize it https://skat.dk/en-us/businesses/vat/vat-on-international-tr...

IG_Semmelweiss 6 days ago

"Dont want to bother" is generous.

"Dont want to be stuck in the morass of EU red tape" is more like it. Not that US red tape is any better, mind you, but suffice to say that unless you have massive scale, registration schemes will make you ROI negative unless you are making >100k in sales per month from the country in question.

Some even require registration by region. For example GER vs UK vs FR and rest a while back, all needed separate registration. And the paperwork is usually in the home coun try official language. Ha joke is on you when you start getting tax authority messages. They arent saying bonjour!

Source: i did this for my company.

rfmc 6 days ago

It’s all about the VAT collection. I order frequently from Amazon Japan. They add the 25% VAT directly at the moment of purchase and deliver by DHL to Denmark without any extra handling fees. So it’s not about china, but about the company doing the paperwork required for the VAT collection instead of you doing.

And by you I mean PostNord in the case of Denmark

kergonath 6 days ago

> From Great Britain post-Brexit? Ditto.

I get stuff delivered from the UK to the EU very regularly and all competent sellers handle VAT and duties just fine without additional processing fees. Smaller companies don’t always bother, though, but most of the time I don’t have to pay customs because everything is declared properly.

kergonath 6 days ago

> But the processing fee for customs is usually 20-40 USD. Which can exceed the cost of the package in the first place.

It depends on who you are buying from. This is the order of magnitude of the fee if you let the shipping company handle it. It is extortionate and they do it because at this point buyers don’t have a choice if they want their stuff.

Companies that are used to dealing with foreign customers handle taxes themselves and don’t charge processing fees.