If my 5 yo daughter draws a square with a triangle on top is she an architect?
That's quite a straw man example though.
If your daughter could draw a house with enough detail that someone could take it and actually build it then you'd be more along the lines of the GP's LLM artist question.
Not really, the point was contrasting sentimental labels with professionally defined titles, which seems precisely the distinction needed here. It's easy enough to look up on the agreed upon term for software engineer / developer and agree that it's more than someone that copy pastes code until it just barely runs.
EDIT: To clarify I was only talking about vibe coder = developer. In this case the LLM is more of the developer and they are the product manager.
Do we have professionally defined titles for developer or software engineer?
I've never seen it clarified so I tend to default to the lowest common denominator - if you're making software in some way you're a developer. The tools someone uses doesn't really factor into it for me (even if that is copy/pasting from stackoverflow).
nope. if i ask an llm to give me a detailed schematic to build a bridge, im not magically * poof * a structural engineer.
I don't know, if you actually design in some way and deliver the solution for the structure of the bridge, aren't you THE structural engineer for that project ?
Credentials don't define capability, execution does.
> Credentials don't define capability, execution does.
All the same, if my city starts to hire un-credentialed "engineers" to vibe-design bridges, I'm not going to drive on them
again, it doesn’t make me a structural engineer—it’s the outcome of hiring someone else to do it. it really isn’t complicated.
i’m not suddenly somehow a structural engineer. even worse, i would have no way to know when its full of dangerous hallucinations.
This argument runs squarely into the problems of whether credentials or outcomes are what's important, and whether the LLM is considered a tool or the one actually responsible doing the work.
it’s not that deep.
*if* it were a structurally sound bridge, it means i outsourced it. it’s that simple. it doesn’t magically make me a structural engineer, it means it was designed elsewhere.
if i hire someone to paint a picture it doesn’t magically somehow make me an artist.