sebazzz 8 days ago

> small business, manufacturing, small town American succeed

That can only happen if you ban all imports of anything those small business manufacturers would made, and be content with the prices going up so those Americans can really be paid who make those products.

If that is not possible, then it is either slavery, poorly paid illegal immigrants or back to some other low-wage country like we’ve done for the past decades.

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rstuart4133 7 days ago

> That can only happen if you ban all imports of anything those small business manufacturers would made, and be content with the prices going up so those Americans can really be paid who make those products. ... then it is either slavery, poorly paid illegal immigrants or back to some other low-wage country like we’ve done for the past decades.

Counterpoint: About 1/3 of Australia's GDP is small business. We have very few tariffs. We have a high minimum wage (about USD$16/hr) and it's enforced, so slavery yada, yada isn't a factor.

What you said sounds like it might be true, but in reality it ain't so.

_heimdall 8 days ago

> That can only happen if you ban all imports of anything those small business manufacturers would made

Consumers could always make this decision for themselves and pick domestic over foreign. It seems extremely unlikely, but I also see bringing back manufacturing without massive economic shock as extremely unlikely. If I want a pipe dream, it be for manufacturing to come back because consumers actually care that it comes back.

sebazzz 8 days ago

> Consumers could always make this decision for themselves and pick domestic over foreign.

In a free market, consumers _do_ decide for themselves. It is simply so, that price is the primary factor for many consumers. Especially in a society where living paycheck to paycheck is normal - but really in any society.

_heimdall 8 days ago

Price doesn't have to be the primary factor though, that was my point. People can choose for whatever reasons they want, we just don't currently seem to care where manufacturing is being done.

otterley 8 days ago

Price does have to be the primary factor if you need something and can only afford the cheapest option. And this is the unfortunate reality for most people in the world, including those in first-world societies.

_heimdall 8 days ago

If we are, in fact, at the point where people are only buying the necessities and we still can't afford the cheapest options the game is kind if already lost.

DangitBobby 8 days ago

Quality is actually a primary factor for me, which means for any important purchases (cars especially) I choose foreign-made products.