amelius 9 days ago

Market manipulation?

https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/well-timed-options-...

(Besides, at this point I wouldn't be surprised if Trump's Russian oligarch friends were among these traders.)

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pseudalopex 9 days ago

Pausing tariffs was an official act. The Supreme Court ruled courts could not consider presidents' motives for official acts.

amelius 9 days ago

But what about leaking information about it?

freeone3000 8 days ago

It’s not “insider” trading if you post about it publicly on Truth Social, the same way it’s not “insider” trading if you took out an ad in the New York Times.

The government is allowed to announce policy before doing it! Even if it affects stock prices!

amelius 8 days ago

Yeah, I'm not on that social media, nor do I read NYT. The same holds for millions of others.

freeone3000 8 days ago

Too bad! Insider trading, as a crime, requires that the information be nonpublic material information. You can join Truth Social and follow Donald Trump, so that makes the information public.

It actually is that broad. Futures traders often rely on industry-specific periodicals, which are “public”. Same for anything in the (high monthly cost!) Bloomberg terminal. So posting on a specific social media platform, where subscribing is free? That’s 100% public.

amelius 8 days ago

Except he didn't announce anything. He said "a good time to buy" which may be code language that his friends understand.

freeone3000 8 days ago

… are you hearing yourself? “It’s a good time to buy!” has the plain english meaning “you should buy stock”. Everyone, you included, understood he was talking about US company stocks. Which, if you did, you would have profited. This theoretical code would be “when i say it’s a good time to buy stock, we should all buy stock!”. That is, well, not a code.

amelius 8 days ago

He should have announced the policy, and said something like "we will pause the tariffs". But instead, he said something vague, which can be interpreted as a hint, and which will open the road for investigations.

freeone3000 8 days ago

“Now is a good time to buy” isn’t vague.

amelius 8 days ago

The point is that this text is not the official policy. It is a hint to investors.

freeone3000 8 days ago

A public hint to investors.

amelius 8 days ago

A hint to those who know the code.

pseudalopex 9 days ago

Leaking is vague. What part of what law?

amelius 9 days ago

It's not vague. I'm not a lawyer but usually cases of trading with insider information are taken very seriously. It's theft, basically. And the scale here is enormous.

pseudalopex 9 days ago

Leaking, insider trading, and theft are different. And laws contain specific definitions.

amelius 8 days ago

There is evidence of him tweeting insider information.

Again I'm not a lawyer, and I don't care what law is applicable here. But surely this warrants further investigation.