photonthug 10 days ago

> There’s no way to use “rules and facts” to express concepts like “chair” or “grass”, or “face” or “justice” or really anything. Any project trying to use deterministic symbolic logic to represent the world fundamentally misunderstands cognition.

Are you sure? In terms of theoretical foundations for AGI, AIXI is probabilistic but godel-machines are proof based and I think they'd meet criteria for deterministic / symbolic. Non-monotonic and temporal logics also exist, where chairness exists as a concept that might be revoked if 2 or more legs are missing. If you really want to get technical then by allowing logics with continuous time and changing discrete truth values, then you can probably manufacture a fuzzy logic where time isn't considered but truth/certainty values are continuous. Your ideas about logic might be too simple, it's more than just Aristotle

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klank 10 days ago

Not person you are replying to, just FYI.

I don't know, it all seems like language games to me. The meaning is never in its grammar, but in its usage. The usage is arbitrary and capricious. I've not discovered how more nuanced forms of logics have ever really grappled with this.

mark_l_watson 10 days ago

In the 1980s, we used to talk about the silliness of the “grandmother neuron” - the idea that one neuron would capture an important thing, rather than a distributed representation.