krick 10 days ago

I have nothing to say about Cyc (apart to that the bitter lesson is bitter indeed, but was never debunked so far; and, also, I hate LLMs). But this line (from accompanying github) deserves some attention, IMO:

> Due to the lack of long-term stability of IA, I have taken the liberty to scrape those from IA and kept them here for safe keeping.

I mean, he is not wrong, and when I want to preserve something code-related, Github comes to mind as a safe place... which is crazy, if you think about it for a moment. And the fact that we are starting to use Github as a backup for IA is almost comically grotesque. I don't have a solution, but it's worth reminding that we sure have a problem.

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KerrAvon 10 days ago

It's worse. GitHub is owned by Microsoft and exists as a community resource only as long as Microsoft's benevolence holds out.

marsten 10 days ago

My own thought process is that it's like Usenet or arXiv: The collective value of Github is so high that even if Microsoft loses interest, someone else will buy it from them or clone the content elsewhere. That said, I do wish there was an alternative that didn't involve a for-profit corporation.

thot_experiment 10 days ago

What does it mean to you to hate LLMs?

drob518 10 days ago

You sound like ELIZA.

ted_dunning 10 days ago

Have you ever not hated LLMs?

dudinax 10 days ago

What did you mean when you said "Have you ever not hated LLMs"?

DonHopkins 10 days ago

I started loving LLMs when I cussed at them enough that they started cussing back.

thot_experiment 10 days ago

Yes? I don't hate LLMs and I don't think I ever have. They are super useful and neat, I use them all the time from smolguys on my computer to Claude in the cloud. It's like saying "I hate forks" or something, like why do you hate a generic tool that has many applications? I love that I have these things for free at home forever, my personal wiki and time tracker have both gotten way more useful ever since I baked an LLM in.

QuesnayJr 9 days ago

I think they're imitating Eliza.

damnitbuilds 10 days ago

Please let there be an eccentric billionaire who has backed up the internet archive for when it goes bust.