dartharva 10 days ago

> Lenat personally did not release the source code of his PhD project or EURISKO, remained unimpressed with open source, and disliked academia as much as academia disliked him. Most open information concerning Cyc had been deliberately removed circa 2015, at the moment when Cycorp pivoted to commercial applications.

Makes one wonder how much a research being open makes a difference in its real-world success in the current age. Cyc's competitors (LLMs etc.) arguably have a lot to attribute to open public participation for its successes. Perhaps things would have been difference had Lenat been more open with the project?

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Legend2440 10 days ago

Probably not, tbh. The issue with Cyc is that it required huge amounts of manual effort to create the rules, while LLMs can learn their own rules from raw data.

There was no machine intelligence in Cyc, just human intelligence.

moralestapia 10 days ago

>while LLMs can learn their own rules from raw data

Supervised vs. unsupervised, but LLMs haven't made any new discoveries on their own ... yet.

lproven 10 days ago

> There was no machine intelligence in Cyc, just human intelligence.

This can be rephrased for other "AI" projects with exactly the same relevance:

There is no machine intelligence in LLM bots, just human intelligence.

lenerdenator 10 days ago

So more of an expert system?

dragonwriter 10 days ago

Cyc was exactly an expert system (and those were exactly as central an "AI" technology as LLMs are today, a few rounds of AI hype ago.)

ted_dunning 10 days ago

Very much so.

giardini 10 days ago

> Lenat personally did not release the source code of his PhD project or EURISKO...<

Now that Lenat is dead, can his PhD project code and EURISKO code be released?

DonaldFisk 10 days ago

Source code for Eurisko: github.com/seveno4/EURISKO

Source code for AM: https://github.com/white-flame/am