kelsey978126 7 days ago

Why do people even think this? Bots almost always just use headful instrumented browsers now. if a human sitting at a keyboard can load the content, so can a bot.

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simpaticoder 7 days ago

Security measures never prevent all abuse. They raise the cost of abuse above an acceptable threshold. Many things work like this. Cleaning doesn't eliminate dirt, it dilutes the dirt below an acceptable threshold. Same for "repairing" and "defects", and some other pairs of things that escape me atm.

abofh 7 days ago

That's the same argument as CAPTCHA's - as far as I know there are no bots protesting them making their lives harder, but as a human - my life is much harder than it needs to be because things need me to prove I'm a human.

Clean for data ingestion usually means complicated for data creation - optimizing for the advertisers has material cash value downstream, but customers are upstream, and making it harder is material too.

ImHereToVote 7 days ago

What is so hard about running a fragment shader after the site has loaded?

abofh 7 days ago

I have to assume /s, but lacking that -- Why can't you just allow `curl`? You need a human for advertising dollars or a poor mechanism of rate limiting. I want to use your service. If you're buying me a fragment shader, I guess that's fine, but I'm feeding it to the dogs, not plugging in your rando hardware in to my web-browser.

ImHereToVote 7 days ago

I just want to limit my server to usual human users. If you have JavaScript disabled, you won't be missed. Sorry.

ImHereToVote 7 days ago

We are talking about Curl bots here. How is what you are saying relevant?

cAtte_ 7 days ago

no, nyanpasu64's comment extended the discussion to general bot detection