glimshe 3 days ago

Hot take: workplace and social media April Fools jokes aren't funny and are often inappropriate and disrespectful to people's time.

It's cool to do these to your friends in High school, but I once wasted a good amount of time at work because of an April's fool joke. I already didn't want to do the work so I got really upset to have wasted time doing something boring and useless.

Additionally, the scale of social media can create situations where it wastes everybody's time several times per day... Including on HN.

Feel free to prank your friends, but don't bring it to work or the Internet, please.

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fkyoureadthedoc 3 days ago

All jobs I have ever worked have collectively wasted more man hours through incompetence and the usual corporate BS than I could ever hope to with any conceivable April fools joke.

roenxi 2 days ago

The deal is they pay you a fair amount of money to put up with that. Whereas people such as the gentlemen in the article are causing people stress for no reason and with no compensation - and barely even an acknowledgement of misbehaviour.

There are worse crimes in the world, but it is bad.

circlefavshape 2 days ago

> There are worse crimes in the world, but it is bad

Bollocks, and bollocks to the parent hot take. Any moral framework that forbids fun, whether it's because it offends God or "causes people (a tiny bit of) stress", is repugnant to me

roenxi 2 days ago

There is an irony that you're adjudicating away other people's stress while holding up your own opinions and feelings of repugnance as evidence of a problem.

The reality of professional standards is we can't control what people feel or happens to them but we sure can put a good faith effort in to try and make the experience as neutral as possible. This April fools prank breached that standard in an unpleasant way. I hope there wasn't a student tired and on edge trying to meet a deadline. It'd feel awful to think the print system was out, spend a morning running around and then learn that some IT bloke was abusing his power out of a misplaced sense fun. It isn't a serious offence but it is bad behaviour.

hulitu 20 hours ago

> The reality of professional standards is we can't control what people feel or happens to them but we sure can put a good faith effort in to try and make the experience as neutral as possible.

You should use some Microsoft or Google products. They "sure can put a good faith effort in to try and make the experience as" crappy and masochistic as possible, while siphoning all your data.

And yes, avoid people without humor, especially the serious types.

StefanBatory 2 days ago

Ah, but do you get to have fun at the cost of others?

That is the question.

Cycl0ps 2 days ago

Of course! I'm doing it right now!

wat10000 2 days ago

It's not the offense, it's the wasted time and money. Think of one of those meeting timers that counts in dollars instead of minutes. Now apply that to all the time spent by random people calling the main office, and by the main office fielding all those calls. It's one thing to cost your employer thousands of dollars because you made a mistake (I'm sure we've all been there), and quite another to cost your employer thousands of dollars with a prank.

You can't even make the (quite bad) defense that people should have known better and it's their own fault for falling for it. The message was 100% plausible.

freehorse 2 days ago

> timers that counts in dollars instead of minutes

Not the best way to measure time imo.

wat10000 2 days ago

The whole point is to measure what really matters to the business, instead of measuring time.

freehorse 2 days ago

Not every second of working time has the same level of productivity/value. Having a clock that measures time in dollars makes no sense because it assumes some linear relationship between them.

wat10000 2 days ago

No, it assumes some linear relationship between pay and time. Which is a little iffy for salaried workers, but only a little.

My employer gets about 40 hours/week of "work" from me, whatever that might consist of. I cost them $X every two weeks in pay and benefits. It's pretty reasonable to say my attendance in a one-hour meeting has a $X/80 cost to my employer.

You don't need to overcomplicate this. The employment relationship is pretty simple at its foundation: the employer buys the time of its employees.

krisoft 2 days ago

There is a very linear relationship between time and money for the one who pays the employees though.

Nobody says “you know boss, that two hour meeting today was a total waste of time, please deduct two hours worth of my salary from my paycheck”. So the company quite literally pays for everyone’s time who was at the meeting. And that is a function of who is present and how long the meeting goes. It is very much not a function of productivity/value.

And the point of having a, more often rethorical than real, taximeter showing the cost of the meeting puts this into perspective. The more people you invite the more the meeting costs. The longer it goes the more it costs. The goal is not to abolish all meetings, but to make people think if the bang to buck ratio of the meeting is right. To instill a culture where people prepare for meetings, they have concrete questions or decision outcomes they are looking for, and to criticaly think about the length of the meeting and right-size the invite list.

hulitu 20 hours ago

> The whole point is to measure what really matters to the business, instead of measuring time.

We tried to speak with management about it. They wouldn't listen.

hulitu 20 hours ago

> It's not the offense, it's the wasted time and money. Think of one of those meeting timers that counts in dollars instead of minutes.

Yes, think about it. Captcha, (Windows) updates, crappy UIs updated every couple of months, new features instead of bug fixing. _That_ is wasted time and money.

wat10000 2 days ago

That doesn't mean you go and deliberately make it worse for a laugh.

fkyoureadthedoc 2 days ago

It's just disingenuous to pretend it's about corporate efficiency when it's more about personal feelings/vibes.

wat10000 2 days ago

“Corporate efficiency” is vague and largely meaningless. “Don’t waste a bunch of your coworkers’ time” is a lot more concrete. Especially don’t set up the people who answer the phones to get angry calls due to your prank.

lynx97 3 days ago

Haha, the times they are a changing. I still remember c't april fools joke from the 90s where they published a scencil (template) to indicate where you have to drill a hole into your pentium CPU to be able to overclock it. I still chuckle about the whole thing almost 30 years after the fact, still wondering how many morons actually destroyed their perfectly working CPU back then. At times, active thinking of your peers just needs to be challenged so they don't get too confident...

RandomBacon 2 days ago

This reminds me of the joke videos where you could drill a hole into the iPhone to access the headphone jack or microwave it for wireless charging. I don't recall seeing any pictures of people actually doing those things though, just "angry" comments which were also probably jokes.

sokoloff 2 days ago

Someone actually did it (for real): https://youtu.be/utfbE3_uAMA

nyanpasu64 2 days ago

Meanwhile the Xbox 360 kamikaze hack actually involved drilling a chip...

hulitu 20 hours ago

> wondering how many morons actually destroyed their perfectly working CPU back then.

Well, if they knew where the CPU is, and still drilled a hole through it, they deserved it.

causal 2 days ago

Nah. I like the small things that remind us we're still humans, and a little inconvenience is a small price

Symbiote 2 days ago

Small things are fine.

It's not fun when the corporate marketing team meets in September to start planning their April Fools jokes.

ghaff 3 days ago

I probably wouldn't make it so absolute. But when I was doing some writing for CNET, there was invariably a warning leading up to April 1 that if you are considering an April Fool's joke in print, just don't.

xxr 2 days ago

Y’know, I’m inclined to agree here, but I don’t think it was always this way. Over the last few years I’ve been feeling really fatigued, I suppose, by April Fool’s Day, and I think feeling this way has coincided with the rise of fake everything on the web. Rather than one day a year where we get to be amused by pranks in good faith, we’re mentally on-guard every day trying to identify whether a story or (increasingly) an image is real or not. Rather than one day a year where you’ve got people sending you stuff like “ALIEN LABORATORY DISCOVERED UNDERNEATH PYRAMIDS” accompanied by obvious-to-you GenAI images, now it’s every day, and still not everyone is in on the joke (and a joke is the best-case scenario behind creator’s intent).

namenotrequired 2 days ago

I feel the opposite. Work pranks are the best pranks because they only waste time that I was already selling anyway.

jonstewart 2 days ago

HP LaserJet 4s squarely date TFA’s prank in the early-mid 90s. I can agree with you that lame corporate April Fool’s Day jokes on the Internet are overdone; but 1990s-era campus sysadmin’ing ruled. Sysadmins kept a close eye on things to ensure no one (especially the servers) got hurt, but computer geeks were far from mainstream and a spirit of playful tolerance and taking-care-of-our-own prevailed. Well do I remember telneting to sendmail on port 25 and sending spoofed email to classmates…

The university-wide email was probably too much but displaying INSERT 5 CENTS on an HP LaserJet 4 for a day is great.

II2II 2 days ago

My take is that April fools jokes cross the line when they affect people you do not know. Put in other terms: if you can't deliver a direct and sincere apology, you're being a jerk.

johnisgood 3 days ago

"Don't bring it to work" I could agree with, not the whole Internet, however.

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hackable_sand 2 days ago

April 1st always falls on a weekend though

Cycl0ps 2 days ago

My brother in Christ it's Tuesday

nosrepa 2 days ago

Woosh

Suppafly 2 days ago

>Feel free to prank your friends, but don't bring it to work or the Internet, please.

Hell don't even prank your friends, most of them don't appreciate it either.

dilyevsky 2 days ago

haha, very funny!

wat10000 2 days ago

I'm surprised this is being downvoted. Don't waste hours of other people's time for your fun.

Imagine being one of the people who had to field all of those phone calls. Probably quite a few of those callers were quite angry. Imagine being subject to that anger because some moron in IT you never met thought it would be funny to play a prank that lands on your head.