zxspectrum1982 9 days ago

Stop the communist brainwashing "redistribution of wealth" and start thinking: 45%, that you saved after paying taxes, is pure robbery.

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halper 9 days ago

But is the point not that the person who needs to pay this tax, if they accept the free gift of land etc, still gets to keep 55%?

There are cases that can be imagined (a child inheriting an old house in a high-COL location) where it feels unfair, but in this case it sounds like free money. Surely the government is not asking for more money than the land is worth, or something like that?

petesergeant 9 days ago

I would much rather pay less tax while I’m alive and the majority of it when I’m dead and will no longer give a shit.

radiator 9 days ago

You don't give a shit about your offspring? But even so, aren't you at least able to understand that other people do care about their progeny?

ath3nd 9 days ago

There is a name for a system where people pass on their wealth (and titles) to their progeny, by birthright.

I am sure the average 99%-er American would love to be back in medieval Europe, where kings and queens, and lords and dukes cared so much for their offspring! Wealth by birthright, that's so progressive!

graemep 9 days ago

Money is not the most important thing I can give my kids. Love, education, support and encouragement ...

akimbostrawman 7 days ago

Nobody claimed otherwise however making sure your loved ones are taken care of in the best possible position involves love and support otherwise why bother you are already dead.

petesergeant 9 days ago

Distributing wealth in society on the basis of parental success seems like it would be a terrible idea.

ath3nd 9 days ago

Stop the tsarist/oligarch propaganda then /s.

If you don't want to pay taxes, don't be a part of society, don't use public roads, public schools, public hospitals, and public education.

If you do want to be a part of society, accept that it's a give-and-take situation, and move on. Some people give more than they take, and some people do take more than they have given, and that's alright with me.

Side rant:

It's no wonder that a show like Breaking Bad, where a teacher gets cancer and has to become a drug kingpin to finance his healthcare, has to be situated in the US. The plot simply wouldn't hold in any other civilized country.

It's no also wonder that the name Luigi is no longer only the name of Mario's brother but synonymous with something else, and again something that happened in the US.

zxspectrum1982 9 days ago

Nobody said "no" to taxes. Fair taxes are necessary. FAIR TAXES. Not 45% taxes on something that already paid taxes several times (income, property, VAT, etc). That's robbery.

ath3nd 9 days ago

> FAIR TAXES

Agreed with you! A progressive tax (the more you earn, the higher % you get taxed) makes sense as a fair thing to me.

Where I am from, it's 52%, and that's a reasonable price to pay for having bike paths, greening, parks, good roads, affordable public transport, great public schools, and paid time off and maternity/paternity leave.

Once there was a strike of the public sanitation workers in my city due to their low wages. You know what happened? In 2 weeks it changed from a beautiful place to live to a cesspool. Don't know about you but I was happy to spend some of my $$ so I didn't have to fight rats, rabid dogs and mountains of garbage to take my kids from school.

As a matter of fact, once somebody reaches a certain amount of wealth, I'd be very much in favor that it should be 70%, 80%, 90% and 99%. And, of course, then you get the prize "you won capitalism, now relax".

zxspectrum1982 9 days ago

52% is not fair but pure robbery. Not so long ago, people paid the tithe (10%) and if any lord, governor or king dared to go just a little further, they'd be killed, usually by hanging. There's many countries in the world with smaller taxes and still great services. Public money is just wasted by politicians trying to buy votes for the next election.

ath3nd 8 days ago

> Public money is just wasted by politicians trying to buy votes for the next election.

No, that's not how any of this works.

https://scienceexchange.caltech.edu/topics/voting-elections/...

Politicians' campaigns are usually funded by large corporations and individual donors, not by public money.

> Not so long ago, people paid the tithe (10%) and if any lord,

The current right wing governments are trying to bring us to that time, it seems.

> There's many countries in the world with smaller taxes and still great service

Name a couple.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/standard-...

Luxembourg - 42%

Netherlands - 49%

Denmark - 42%

Should I go on?