Stratoscope 9 days ago

I love The Guardian! It is one of my two ongoing donations, along with the Internet Archive.

Back when it was The Manchester Guardian, they produced one of the most remarkable TV commercials in history, "Points of View":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SsccRkLLzU

I first saw this commercial when Will Hearst (yes, of that Hearst family) screened it at a Software Development Forum meeting in the late 1980s.

I wish this were a better transfer, but it is what we have. Does anyone have a link to a higher resolution transfer?

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smcl 9 days ago

It is one of the better UK papers but the bar there is extremely low. They're often still painfully "both sides" on things, they're slow on the uptake and they're often quite credulous. Wonderful example that I had scrolled past shortly before I switched tabs and read your comment: https://x.com/Obseyxx/status/1906396387031368067

As I said, they're the best of a bad bunch but that's damning with faint praise.

PickledChris 9 days ago

They've gone downhill in the last few years in my opinion, they've become more overtly partisan and got substantially downgraded on factual reporting by MediaBias Fact check: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-guardian/

They've always been left of centre, but they're lazy and jump more into the predictable culture war pandering.

The FT is streets ahead of anyone else, they've become more centrist and less dry in recent years. I don't know what their revenues are like but I'd wager that they're doing better as they're one of the only ones with a business model that allows them to pay for good journalism.

smcl 9 days ago

If they were "left of centre" that would be fine there are few if any major left-wing newspapers in the UK. The pandering from my perspective has been to those on the right. They seem to be doing the "well if both sides hate us we must be doing something correctly!" except the right want rivers of blood and the left want public transport, healthcare and to ensure the more vulnerable among us are treated with dignity and compassion.

The "culture war" people refer to is not "woke ideology" being pushed everywhere as is so often the accusation, but an enormous, orchestrated push against an otherwise fairly organic process where the world had otherwise become more naturally more accepting of immigrants and LGBTQ+ minorities.

basisword 9 days ago

If you think the Guardian panders to those on the right you need your head examined. I would love nothing more than a left leaning socialist government and even I shake my head at some of the nonsense the Guardian publishes, especially in their opinion section. It's an effort to get clicks and cause outrage and some of it is no better than the tabloids.

I also disagree that there has been a "fairly organic process where the world had otherwise become more naturally more accepting of immigrants and LGBTQ+ minorities". That's a rewriting of history. Equal rights for the LGBTQ+ community were incredibly hard fought for over many years. It's been anything but organic. It's important not to forget how recently most of the civil rights we take for granted in many areas of life were rights that were denied by a majority.

atoav 9 days ago

Simple but effective, I like it. Journalism in the best form is exactly this: trying to give you the whole picture with all the context you need to contextualize the information.

Sadly a lot of what calls itself jouranlism today is the exact opposite: Not showing the whole picture, serving prexisting world views, overly emotional and out to entertain.

hk__2 9 days ago

> Sadly a lot of what calls itself jouranlism today is the exact opposite

I don’t think this is something new, I feel that most of "journalism" has always been like this with few medias making the effort to show the whole picture.

klelatti 9 days ago

Not from before 1959 when the paper was renamed. 'The Guardian' name actually appears in the ad.