Why blocked? > We have a temporary glitch with GitHub—probably some contributor was geolocated in a sanctioned region (no details yet). All required documents to unlock the account have been uploaded. Don't blame Microsoft/GitHub - it is just U.S. law. Please be patient. It should be unblocked soon.
> Don't blame Microsoft/GitHub
I don't think this is a question of blame, rather than suitability. In the spirit of blameless postmortem, I'll state that GitHub was found unsuitable for hosting a FOSS project.
Why it's unsuitable is truly a secondary question, but it shouldn't prevent us, Free Software maintainers, from drawing necessary conclusions.
> the account have been uploaded. Don't blame Microsoft/GitHub - it is just U.S. law.
"I was just following orders" is an invalid defense.
So a corporation should be in contempt with US law just to uphold a moral high ground for a some random user?
It's a tired argument, but what if we replace "US" in your sentence with "Chinese", "Russian" or "Iranian"?
Considering how the government of "the shining beacon of democracy" is currently running more like one of the above countries, I think it's a good comparison. But I'm guessing plenty here MAGA disagree.
Sounds like another reason not to repy on US-based services.
Until Forgejo does the same.
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What is ‘Codeberg e.V.’?
Codeberg is a non-profit association registered in Berlin, Germany. The abbreviation e.V. stands for eingetragener Verein, which translates as ‘registered association’.
As defined by its Bylaws, its goal is to “guarantee the openness and continued availability of free software”.
Forgejo has to abide by Codeberg’s goals. We believe that this arrangement reinforces the longevity of Forgejo, as far as the project’s stability and financial security is concerned.
Codeberg e.V. owns Forgejo’s domains, provides resources and cooperates closely with Forgejo.
The website codeberg.org is technically similar to GitHub in that they host your code. The repo for OrganicMaps on codeberg.org is here:
https://codeberg.org/organicmaps/organicmaps
However, as you can see, this is only a mirror of the official, original repository, which is hosted here:
https://git.omaps.dev/organicmaps/organicmaps
And while this is using ForgeJo - the software Codeberg develops - it is hosted by OrganicMaps themselves. Thereby, it is very unlikely that somebody else takes this down for whatever reason.
i mean ok but no one is being killed or tortured or even kidnapped here.
I think it's not bad to remember people from time to time that "just following orders" oder "Just doing my job" isn't an universal excuse and that we hanged people rightfully for "just" doing that. If that's your only excuse for what you're doing you may should at least deeply think again if what you're doing is excusable.
They only want to protect MS in this case, I guess to increase their chance to resolve it positively.
But I just recently thought about this. If you develop exploits for say NSO und a journalist gets tortured to death. Should you be put on trial? I'm not sure why not tbh.
> no one is being killed or tortured or even kidnapped here.
Maybe not but the vibe feels more like open source being gunpoint.
"Upload documents or else"
Sounds like a reasonable reason to dump a service that will just block you.
Nothing you put there sounds like a reason not to move, in fact it sounds like all the more reason to do it.
>Sounds like a reasonable reason to dump a service that will just block you.
ANY and I mean absolutely ANY service can just block you if they think you're violating ToS, including Google/Android and Apple.
And when you self-host, worst case scenario is running a disaster recovery exercise on a different cloud provider. (Except for DNS, where you're at the mercy of the registrar; you might need to communicate a new domain name to your users.)
It's just time to leave Microsoft. Don't make excuses for rich corporations.
One of the contributors might be from a sanctioned country, and therefore it's reasonable to block everyone?
That absolutely does not sound reasonable to everyone else.
Sanctions were transitive for awhile.
Are you trying to say that it *is* reasonable for an Open Source project to expect this?
Just following orders is evil.
It's good that Organic Maps is leaving Microsoft behind.