darkwater 5 days ago

> The current generation went through a round of cost cutting and added WiFi bullshit to everything

I'm no dishwasher expert and I guess they did their homework but over a period of 10 years, how can be cheaper to remove the local functionality, add a wifi chip, redo the manuals, and pay for the datacenter costs?

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inferiorhuman 4 hours ago

Ah, I meant cost cutting elsewhere. For instance the Bosch dishwasher I have came with two utensil holders, no WiFi, and real buttons. The newer versions come with one utensil holder, fake buttons, and WiFi.

account42 5 days ago

It's probably more that they add the online features because some users want them and then think if they already have that they can save some cents on buttons.

Also I seriously doubt the hosting costs are more than a rounding error for a multiple-hundred-dollar appliance.

darkwater 4 days ago

> Also I seriously doubt the hosting costs are more than a rounding error for a multiple-hundred-dollar appliance.

Ok but...

> then think if they already have that they can save some cents on buttons.

Isn't this a rounding error as well, on a >500$ appliance?

How can we have at the same time dishwashers with no 7-segments display because it's too expensive and other brands with wifi on every model? It cannot be just for costs, there ought to be marketing reasons behind this.

Gibbon1 4 days ago

So I have the same model. And night before last instead of starting. It bleeped and flashed a row of LED's. And that's it. It doesn't have an LED display to show error codes. Pulled it out, nothing seems wrong. But I have no idea what it's upset about.

uberman 5 days ago

It's cheaper because in the end they sell your data.

harvey9 5 days ago

I would guess they used cheaper materials for the moving parts and case.