ryandrake 6 days ago

All of these use cases can be achieved without requiring a manufacturer-run Internet-connected cloud service.

I don't think this is a lack of imagination. Personally, I would love network-connected appliances that could be controlled and automated over my LAN. What I (and others) object to is the unnecessary round trip through the Internet to the manufacturer's server which will inevitably become the weakest link.

If there's any imagination problem, it's on the manufacturer who can't imagine a "smart" appliance that doesn't involve inserting themselves, via the Internet, in between the user and the appliance and (often) charging a monthly service fee for this misfeature.

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saaaaaam 3 days ago

“Normal” people have no idea how to make that work though. They just want an app on their phone and not to have to buy something or maintain something or check something.

We could all run our own mail servers and there’s a good reason we don’t.

dzhiurgis 6 days ago

Yes they are achievable, but UX from normal users POV is horrible nor it's something that most people want. If it's on my smartphone then it should also work anywhere in the world. User doesn't really car how it's achieved, but it needs to be bulletproof.