JohnBooty 6 days ago

Wow not my experience at all.

The MBP mic is generally preferable to most headset boom mics in my experience with good noise reduction. You also get the benefit of not picking up extraneous mouth noises (gum chewing, coffee slurping, whatever)

I feel like 99% of people I conference with use regular headphones + MBP mic

Main problem with that setup is not being able to hear your own voice in the headphones (feedback, or whatever that's called) which can be annoying sometimes if using NC headphones

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lloeki 6 days ago

> feedback, or whatever that's called

Monitoring.

There are umpteenth ways to do that, and I find headsets themselves do it the most poorly of all (if they have the feature at all).

> The MBP mic is generally preferable to most headset boom mics

Another benefit is not paying the '90s GSM handsfree BT profile codec pain (at the cost of A2DP having slightly higher latency)

arghwhat 6 days ago

> Monitoring

It's called sidetone. Headsets do it so your ears don't feel clogged and to avoid subconscious yelling.

Some headsets let you adjust it either through a regular Sidetone volume control or some dedicated app. Soundcards also often have this feature in the form of a Mic output volume control, done in hardware to reduce latency.

A significant difference in headset quality is in sidetone latency. The heavier the DSP processing required to get a reasonable mic output, the harder it is to hit latency targets. Headset SoCs have dedicated hardware for this - a user-space solution like Apple pulls on their laptops would not be able to meet a usable latency target.

> Another benefit is not paying the '90s GSM handsfree BT profile codec pain

LE Audio includes the LC3 codec, solving this once and for all.

In the meantime while this rolls out, various alternate codecs exist that are fairly widely supported. This is especially true when using fancier headsets with a dedicated bluetooth dongle as they have more flexibility when it comes to codecs and compatibility.

Aaronstotle 6 days ago

Actually my complaint relates to open office designs, the macbook mic picks up louder people from across the room. So if I do use headphones and the MBP mic, other people will hear random noise blurbs from anywhere in the office .

argsnd 6 days ago

If you click the orange microphone icon in the menu bar while it’s in use it lets you switch to a mode that only captures your voice

arghwhat 6 days ago

I don't think I recall having a meeting with anyone using plain headphones with the laptop mic instead of a headset of some kind. Wired headphones without a mic are somewhat unusual nowadays to begin with outside audio file circles.

AirPods of various versions is common, as is many other buds. Enterprise headsets like those from EPOS (the old Sennheiser Communication) and Jabra (with or without boom) and speakerphones are common in corporate settings, casual headsets (e.g., Sony, Bose) and wired gaming headsets are common at home.