verdverm 2 days ago

The App View frontend is open source: https://github.com/bluesky-social/social-app

Much of the backend is open source as well: https://github.com/bluesky-social/atproto/tree/main/packages

What is not are the extra services they run to provide a better and faster UX. Even if it was open source, it likely costs 10s of thousands to run per month (they have moved largely to "onprem" hardware instead of the cloud aiui)

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nightpool 2 days ago

That's the frontend code, it doesn't include the backend API services, which are closed source.

half-kh-hacker 2 days ago

the backend (the AppView) can be found here:

https://github.com/bluesky-social/atproto/tree/main/packages...

there are various supporting services written in Go as well

https://github.com/bluesky-social/indigo

verdverm 2 days ago

Which is what I said in the second sentence

nightpool 2 days ago

AppView is a specific term of art within the Bluesky federation architecture: https://atproto.com/guides/glossary#app-view, you were incorrect in identifying the public frontend repo as the AppView.

verdverm 1 day ago

The glossary specifically calls out the UI as part of an app view. Can you explain why it is not according to you?

verdverm 2 days ago

A frontend is (can be) part of an App View. It is quite literally the app you view the network through. There can also be headless app views and app views which have no backend

half-kh-hacker 2 days ago

this is not correct

half-kh-hacker 2 days ago

that's not the appview, that's the client

verdverm 2 days ago

App View is a bit fuzzy of a term. To me it seems like a combination of frontend, backend, custom lexicon, and supporting services. There isn't really another place in the spec or design where clients or browsers fit in, which do in fact provide a view of the network via an app.

verdverm 2 days ago

"UI" is part of the definition they give in the glossary

https://atproto.com/guides/glossary#app-view