ipsento606 14 hours ago

> I'm trying to understand how what you're suggesting is different from mandating everyone just get a personal savings account

Because insurance will cover you even if your house burns down in the first year of coverage, whereas a personal savings account will have only a very small amount of money in it in the first year of home ownership.

That's the whole point of insurance.

I don't know where the idea came from that the purpose of home insurance is for people in low-risk homes to subsidize people in high-risk homes, but it's a very strange idea.

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Folcon 14 hours ago

Right, that is the purpose of insurance, to take risk and spread it across a population.

Now the simplest way of doing that is you decide whether someone is "insurable" or "uninsurable" and then for everyone insurable, you define payout criteria and a fair pay in rate (premiums) which is based on your ability to calculate their risk and taking some extra on top for providing the service.

Your skill at:

1. assessing risk correctly as to whether you take them on as clients

2. calculating their risk correctly and mapping it to a price to charge them (premiums)

3. defining payouts in a way that allows you to pay out when things happen to your clients so others trust you to pay out, but not so often that you have no working capital

broadly determine how well you'll do.

You can do all kinds of other complicated things on top of that, but from what I can tell, the fundamental idea seems to be that given those considerations, the insurer pays out, so the fact that someone has a high risk home should be priced into their premiums or they should not have been taken on in the first place.

Now you appear to dislike that people who have different risk profiles are grouped together, what I'm trying to understand is how that works.

For example, in the case of the house burning down:

1. The insurer pays the homeowner out and increases their premiums

2. The insurer pays the homeowner out and places them into a different risk category of people who own similar homes, but have had their house burn down, works out their new premiums, which are now likely much higher as they're in a riskier category and it's likely that population is smaller.

I assume you're arguing for something like 2 to happen?

Or is it something else?

ipsento606 13 hours ago

> Now you appear to dislike that people who have different risk profiles are grouped together

There is no problem with pooling properties with different risk profiles so long as each property pays premiums that adequately represent that property's risk profile.

Folcon 12 hours ago

Don't people who live in higher risk homes already pay higher premiums?

Do you believe that's not the case? Or that insurers are giving them discounts? Or are the risks miscalculated?

Insthrowaway 9 hours ago

I'm in the industry: regarding California,the answer is that they aren't paying high enough premiums. Regulators have refused to allow catastrophe modeling to set rates, so fire prone areas are effectively getting a discount.