emmanueloga_ 1 day ago

For this particular example, I feel like a combination of both human input + algo could work. Something like:

* Have graphviz or some other solver output the [x;y] pairs for each vertex.

* Use the initial positions to create, with a physics engine, a construct where vertices are masses connected by springs following the DAG.

* Add a resizable bounding box constraint around the whole thing.

* Push and pull the boundaries and masses until you get something nice.

What you say still applies: you may want to give the user the ability to resize the masses and re-run the layout algorithm, etc.

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brudgers 1 day ago

I feel like a combination of both human input + algo could work.

For some definitions of “work” I agree.

But, a premise of the OP’s question seems to be a how-hard-could-it-be.

The color of the birds matters. That’s how hard aesthetics is. The shape matters too, for anyone who missed my larger point…and their names because the text is a graphic element.

And all the negative space.

If you want an analogy, there aren’t general purpose algorithms that solve 3-sat in the way we want it solved. Good solutions to specific problems require hand crafting a procedure tailored to the data.

emmanueloga_ 1 day ago

I feel like we are, overall, in agreement, although this may be a case of [1] :-).

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1: https://youtu.be/XHO4Aby6fT8?t=11

brudgers 15 hours ago

We are not in agreement about this particular example because it was made with care.