galangalalgol 4 hours ago

Another use after free... I'm on board with cisa on this one. If you add new code to a sw project in c or c++ that should be a solid case for negligence when your customers sue for losses.

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throw16180339 2 hours ago

Please let us know when Rust has an AIX, i/OS, z/OS, Nonstop OS, OpenVMS, or Stratus VOS target.

tux3 2 hours ago

The headline is about Firefox on Windows for a good reason: that's where the regular users are.

If you want Rust on Nonstop, a niche proprietary platform, your large financial company is welcome to invest in it.

lmm 1 hour ago

> AIX, i/OS, z/OS, Nonstop OS, OpenVMS, or Stratus VOS

A list of which Firefox runs on precisely none.

oguz-ismail 3 hours ago

> I'm on board

and who are you?

do_not_redeem 3 hours ago

His name is galangalalgol. Fashionable, visionary leader of the rust evangelism strike force. And don't you forget it.

(Read in the voice of Tribore Menendez)

dmitrygr 4 hours ago

> If you add new code to a sw project in c or c++ that should be a solid case for negligence when your customers sue for losses.

Sure, as long as you are ok being similarly sued next time you install or use windows, macos, or linux on some box you administer. Those are all written in C. I guess you're OS-less until you write one in something safe. Ditto for web browsers and bootloaders.

lmm 1 hour ago

> next time you install or use windows, macos, or linux on some box you administer.

I don't administer other people's boxes, I provide them with programs written in safe languages (as a bootable unikernel if they want). If they choose to run them on a buggy OS that's on them.

immibis 26 minutes ago

Are there unsafe blocks in the bootable unikernel?

And does it actually work?

galangalalgol 3 hours ago

Wasn't the first cut at windows me written in c#, maybe we can start there. The servo browser on redox isn't even completely free of c I think.

throw16180339 2 hours ago

I think you're thinking of Windows Longhorn (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_Windows_Vista#M...). They used managed code and ended up partially scrapping it to restart development on top of Windows Server 2003.

smitelli 3 hours ago

Windows ME was just Win98SE in an ugly sweater. Mostly C/C++ with some assembly peppered in.

xahrepap 2 hours ago
qskousen 3 hours ago

Windows ME was the worst Windows though.

edm0nd 2 hours ago

Hard agree.

Windows 98SE SP2 was the best

do_not_redeem 2 hours ago

Vista was the worst in my book. And Vista was actually the real turning point when C# started to infect Windows.

gpm 3 hours ago

Servo relies on firefox's JS runtime spidermonkey, written in C++.

ekr____ 3 hours ago

Moreover, a significant fraction of JS vulnerabilities are logic errors in the JIT, so even if the JIT itself is memory safe, that doesn't make the resulting code free of vulnerabilities.

njtransit 3 hours ago

It’s not negligent it use an unsafe OS if no safer options exist. It is negligent to use an unsafe language when safe alternatives exist.

gigel82 3 hours ago

Visual programming like Scratch is safer than Rust so it's negligent if we don't all use Scratch next.

Also, everyone should pee sitting down by law because some are known to pee to on their pants otherwise.

/s

ClassyJacket 2 hours ago

I exaggerate alot but even by my standards this is ridiculous hyperbole. Rust just isn't supported on alot of platforms and libraries.