austin-cheney 12 hours ago

Look, I know this is confusing (no, it isn't).

The person I replied to replied to me. I never mentioned city, but they injected the word city nonetheless probably because they had no idea what they were replying to or what the words meant. What qualifies whether any fixed permanent or semi-permanent settlement is actually a city, town, hamlet, or village is entirely subjective.

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7thaccount 2 hours ago

I didn't inject the word "city", you did.

You referred in your above post to colonies/cities that were over 45,000 years old. Although I don't doubt such a thing is possible (maybe just lost to history), my last dive into this had scholars claiming the oldest known cities to be in the range of 9,000-11,000 years old like Gobekli Tepe and its sister cities. I was just asking if that consensus still holds. I can see this is getting into semantics a bit though and what the definition of city is.

olddustytrail 10 hours ago

> I never mentioned city,

Yes you did:

> first settled into fixed colonies/cities around 45,000 years ago

biorach 11 hours ago

> What qualifies whether any fixed permanent or semi-permanent settlement is actually a city, town, hamlet, or village is entirely subjective.

nope

hosh 11 hours ago

I'm game. What is a city?

biorach 10 hours ago

In the context of archaeology.... a good starting point would be

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/344644569_Definitio...

Yes, the dividing lines are blurry.

No, it is not totally subjective

hosh 7 hours ago

That's a lot of different kinds of definitions, some overlap, other disagree. Seems to me a similar problem with naming and categorizing -- whether it is something useful (as a framework for thinking through things), or for communication. They all create biases in how we see things, and it isn't as if it is something intrinsic to the known universe says, that is a city.