CharlieDigital 23 hours ago

Is `HTMLDivElement` really that different from `class Rectangle`?

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RandomThoughts3 22 hours ago

Yes, extremely.

A div element is a node in a tree which will be rendered by a very opiniated rendering engine adhering to a fairly strict set of standards, and which can be manipulated using a limited subset of technologies which are themselves fairly opinionated.

A class Rectangle can be pretty much whatever you want.

CharlieDigital 21 hours ago

   > A class Rectangle can be pretty much whatever you want
In what way can an `HTMLDivElement` not emulate a `class Rectangle`?

    - Both are rectilinear
    - Both have width, height
    - Both can have borders, backgrounds
    - Both can be positioned in various grid/layout systems
    - Both can contain child instances
    - Both can contain a variety of child nodes like `Text`
    - Both can be clipped and masked
    - Both can be layered
What can you do with a `class Rectangle` from a GUI perspective that you can't do with an `HTMLDivElement`?

RandomThoughts3 21 hours ago

A class Rectangle can be whatever you want. You can overload it. You can change everything including how it’s rendered. It doesn’t have to be any of the things you list.

A div element is a node in a tree which will be rendered by your browser in the way specified by the spec. You absolutely can’t freely do most of the actions you list to a div. There are severe limitations.

A div doesn’t at all emulate a class. Its semantically something completely different.

CharlieDigital 19 hours ago

    > A Rectangle component is a node in a component tree which will be rendered by your OS graphics library in the way specified by the spec. You absolutely can’t freely do most of the actions you list to a div. There are severe limitations.
No?

It seems like you're just talking about a `Rectangle` in the abstract rather than the real limitation that even `class Rectangle` is subject to the rules of the runtime engine that renders said `Rectangle`...in a component tree...with the restrictions of the OS/GUI framework...

RandomThoughts3 13 hours ago

> No?

No.

Rendering outside of a web browser gives you a lot more freedom when it comes to how you layout and render. Rendering engines don’t necessarily use components tree by the way.

Even gui frameworks (which is what I think you are talking about with OS graphic library) have layout engines which are a lot more powerful than css. Flexbox is a step in the right direction but still inferior to what some frameworks could do 20 years ago.

wiseowise 21 hours ago

So instead of standardized element that works pretty much the same on every browser, that can be inspected and controlled by virtually every tool that works with web I, as a user, get a binary blob, correct?