Deutschlandds 1 day ago

You are generalizing extremly without any substinance...

1. its Googles decision to not allow this demo globally. Its a Chess Demo, what EU legal issue do you think makes this a problem? Probably NON...

And yes we are not America. Our privacy is getting better protected then that of americans. Move if you don't like it or at least take the time and effort to state clearly what you don't like about certain EU regulations.

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espadrine 1 day ago

When Meta prevented the EU from using meta.ai or even downloading its vision models, I sunk my head in the AI legistation.

Here, I am honestly not sure which part they rely on, to say that what they made might be unlawful.

The closest thing I found for Meta was that “emotion recognition systems” are classified as high-risk (paragraph 54), and high-risk systems must have their training data disclosed (Art 11(1))[0]. In theory, you could upload photos to meta.ai and ask it what emotions are displayed, but it is already a stretch. For GenChess, I’m at a loss; it doesn’t sound like you can do that. (Not that it prevented any vision chatbot from releasing.)

If someone has a better guess as to why they might have restrained it here, I am curious.

[0]: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A...

sunbum 1 day ago

It's simple. Big tech doesn't like regulation. By pretending the regulation won't let them release "all these cool things" they can turn public opinion against regulation.

lesuorac 1 day ago

See: Cookie Banners.

Nothing in the law requires a banner. It could even be handled in the browser by letting people choose what third-party cookies to accept (or none, hence the problem) and having that be negotiated during page load.

It's nice the law is being interpreted to require to be as easy to reject all local storage of other's data as it is to accept all local storage of other's data.

6510 1 day ago

I'm allowed to ask for all of the data they have from me. This obviously includes all chess games which obviously is a pain in the ass for a dumb demo that will no doubt be archived next week in some obscure place.

WesolyKubeczek 21 hours ago

If you don't collect the data, you're not obligated to give it.

6510 19 hours ago

Google not collecting data from their demo?

oefnak 17 hours ago

Exactly. And if they can store it, they should be able to provide it to users who also want it.