jeroenhd 1 day ago

As unrealistic as it may be, “Russia gives back the stolen land and pays reparations” sounds like a workable deal if Russia itself suffers for long enough. Or maybe Russia will leave Ukraine if we give them all the land and assets owned by the “Ukraine should make a deal with Russia” people, as they're of the opinion that placating an invading army is the best way to peace.

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akira2501 1 day ago

> if Russia itself suffers for long enough.

Do you want Russia, a geopolitical entity, to somehow measurably suffer, or do you want an end to pointless bloodshed? Are you willing to put your own life to this lofty goal?

> placating an invading army is the best way to peace.

If you're not capable of repelling the invasion effectively, then yes, this is absolutely true. How could it not be? There's no reason that you can't have peace today and sue for justice tomorrow.

Aloisius 1 day ago

Did US appeasement of Russia after the annexation of Crimea bring any kind of lasting peace?

Why anyone would think this time it would be different when what Russia wants hasn't changed is beyond me.