ddingus 2 days ago

Objective metrics are very hard. I expanded my comment above to explain why.

And to your point, these things are glacial. As they should be.

Finally, I will point out this dynamic is "signed" in the sense of say benefit of the doubt as opposed to a direct punitive action. Call the latter a negative and the former a positive.

Opportunity costs are another way to think about all this.

We do not have a perfect history to draw from. There goes your objective metric right there.

We do have assessments and expectations that may or may not align, or be met, and those are how I generally evaluate these things.

Be secure in your skepticism! I am of my own.

The major impact may well be a shift in basic trust, changes in expectations.

Things like the petrodollar seeing change and or there being alternatives really matter! A

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toolz 2 days ago

> Objective metrics are very hard.

I agree, but without them we all fall victims to our own blinding bias. Is there much of a point in making predictions or holding opinions when you don't have objective metrics to draw from? Sure, someone has to do it, but not the people in the comment sections of a social media site where we're all trying to learn more.

ddingus 2 days ago

Nope.

We fall victim when we fail to understand one another and have meaningful exchanges with a diverse body of critical thought.

This means actually having those chats across the "asile" as our politicians like to say.

My circle includes a broad swath of people. Sometimes I catch some crap from "those people" because I refuse to hate or shun "those other people" and that sucks.

But, it can be managed and so I do.

It also helps to talk with people from other parts of the world. I cultivate these and those conversations have been rewarding.

"All trying to learn more."

Sure seems to me like you have a conflict in your process you don't need.

Are we all here to learn more?

Nope.

I largely am, but more about what?

For me, better understanding other points of view is a big one. We are having one of those very high value exchanges right now! Great.

More about the topics linked here? Sure!

And then there are those voices of experience, back stories, info bits hard to find otherwise, advice given and, and, and...

I submit your ability to use this resource to potential is hobbled by your perception of it's purpose.

I would give that some thought. I did when it was written to me quite some time ago.

Peace, and all that. Live well.

toolz 2 days ago

There is a type of person I don't bother engaging. The type of person who has no qualms spending a lot of time talking, but is less interested in sharing the facts that inform their worldview. I hope you aren't one of those people and I hope even more strongly you're not content with being that type of person.

ddingus 2 days ago

I am quite happy sharing many things.

Facts are great! When I got 'em, happy to share them.

Ways to reason or more generally think are of great interest as well. We have many modes of thought here. Was considerably less diverse some time back, and very early on, many here flat out tried to shout me down.

Worldviews are meh.

Experiences are much better, particularly when they apply to a process or task or even advocacy of some kind.

As for time. Well, that depends on our input and output speeds.

How about we settle for verbose? Hope that works.

I have no qualms regarding exchange sizes.

Frankly, my top preference is that others be as real as they can, even when that means I won't like it all that much.

I tend to avoid personal judgements. Those are generally unnecessary.