slt2021 2 days ago

LIDARs can be blinded by consumer grade laser pointers, I wonder if there are systems that protect LIDARs against adversarial attacks or DOS attacks

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elictronic 2 days ago

Drivers can also be blinded by consumer grade laser pointers.

If someone starts attacking safety systems physically I would expect they will get quite a bit of jail time.

rightbyte 2 days ago

Messing with machines have a way lower ethical threshold for most people.

Like fooling vending machines to give you soda. Nothing 'my teenage friend' lost sleep over.

JumpCrisscross 2 days ago

> Messing with machines have a way lower ethical threshold for most people

We’re in the regime of throwing rocks at a freeway from a bridge to cutting brake lines as a prank. The attack surface here isn’t new and isn’t difficult to think through. Someone who can’t is going to be equally dangerous, machine or man.

rightbyte 1 day ago

I don't think e.g. 'kids' will see it like cutting a brake line.

I agree, as a former ECU programmer, though. I am terrified of drive by wire.

More like making the Google computer do silly things.

More comparable would be the prank of tying some soda tin cans in a string to the exhaust etc, in how I believe my scapegoat kids would see it.

denysvitali 2 days ago

There are also (stupid) people who like to point laser pointers to helicopter pilots...

rightbyte 2 days ago

They can be blinded by the sun too.

I worked as a reaserch engineer at a uni playing with a 16 beam Velodyne when those were fancy.

Put it on a car for a demo day, drawing the dots in 3d and marking obstacles red, and during sun set there was artifacts with no obvious way to filter out.

Strangely, I was never able to recreate this. I think was some specific athmospheric condition.