panick21_ 4 days ago

> specifically to mitigate the strategic and geopolitical risk of seeing Europe blockaded

No, its because far lobbies are an important political block

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sshine 4 days ago

Both can be true.

Protecting your agricultural capacity is what convinces the part of the population that does not directly benefit from the subsidies.

panick21_ 3 days ago

That's just admitting that it is just justification.

llm_trw 3 days ago

Yes and? If it keeps 20% of the country alive during a twice in a century event that it's a good justification.

chipdart 4 days ago

> No, its because far lobbies are an important political block

Wrong. If you try to educate yourself, you will notice that EU's common agricultural policy even went to the extent of paying subsidies to small property owners to preserve their properties as agricultural land. This goes way beyond subsidizing production, or anything remotely related to your conspiracy theory.

Just because someone benefits from subsidy programs that does not mean that any conspiracy theory spun around the inversion of cause and effect suddenly makes sense. I recommend you invest a few minutes to learn about EU's common agricultural policy before trying to fill that void with conspiracies.

panick21_ 3 days ago

They can write all they want. The fact is, the countries wouldn't cant get rid of their farm policies because of voting. And the EU, is an outgrowth of those already existing countries. EU policy is not handed down from a white tower. Of course you can't actually say that.

darkwater 3 days ago

Farmers and people supporting farmers are still a small minority and while they can probably swing some election in some country if they were to massively support only one party or coalition, the money comes for the strategic importance. It would be naive to think it's just "for the votes".

panick21_ 3 days ago

It was a long time ago that I have looked into this. My understanding from the political science is that countries where farmers votes aren't as important, also have far less subsidizes.

Groups that already have subsidizes are better at defending them. Even if in absolute terms their numbers aren't as big.

darkwater 2 days ago

They are totally going to defend themselves, mainly through boycotts, barricades and varying degrees of riots. That can totally cause a vote issue, but it's because the rest of the population is pissed off by the road blocks etc