lazystar 4 days ago

when your boss is a one-upper who doesnt understand your teams product, they will do everything possible to sabatoge your efforts and spin metrics to make you look bad. attempting to give feedback to such a person will get you this response: "you need to earn trust and learn to disagree and commit".

idk if this is a US thing; its mainly a thing where a manager is tasked with supporting a product that they dont understand. managers in these situations attempt to treat their managerial role as if the product itself does not matter - the team has metrics to hit, and to them thats more important than the product.

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ilitirit 4 days ago

> give feedback to such a person will get you this response: "you need to earn trust and learn to disagree and commit"

Sure, but you won't get fired, right?

Even so, this is just about dealing in general with people who have ego (for the sake of brevity) issues. I don't understand why this should be advice for dealing with senior leadership in general.

lazystar 4 days ago

> Sure, but you won't get fired, right?

in my experience, they will start an email paper trail as a precursor to a PIP.

StefanBatory 4 days ago

It's not only US thing, eastern european too. We're on average rather alright developers but culturally there's no skill of good management - we have been destroyed in this aspect by Soviet occupation and communism.